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Post by jerrytheplater on Sept 25, 2017 14:49:29 GMT -5
Does anyone have their CP growing outdoors all year long in a bog you've made? I don't but I'm thinking of making one.
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Post by cekeys on Sept 30, 2017 18:16:08 GMT -5
me too, so I'd be interested in people's thoughts on the topic. During a quick google search I found references to making the bogs 2 feet deep. Do outdoor CPs need a bog that deep?
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Jason Ksepka
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Feb 12, 2018 13:16:40 GMT -5
I have an outdoor above-ground bog that is 16'x8'x2'. The substrate is pure sphagnum peat with some native Pinelands sand added at one end to encourage Drosera. I also have a number of non=CP companion plants that I am trialing to see how they behave. So things can get a bit weedy. Fall 2015 is when the bog was finished, so 2017 was only the second full year. This year I will certainly be thinning it down quite a bit. If anyone wants some companion plant divisions, get a hold of my this spring.
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Feb 12, 2018 13:17:39 GMT -5
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Feb 12, 2018 13:22:21 GMT -5
Last 3 pics. This forum makes it quite difficult to add files. I had to spend quite a long time resizing them and then it limits to 3 files each post anyway. It is very limiting on how many posts I would like to do.
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Post by jerrytheplater on Feb 16, 2018 22:40:30 GMT -5
Really nice raised bog Jason. Do you find it hard to get to the middle plants since its four feet in to the middle? Have you found any issues with winter freezing of the peat moss? Do any plants heave out? What kind of water do you have where you live? I don't recall if I asked you before. Did you try www.picresize.com/ This works for me when I have to reduce the size of photos.
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Feb 17, 2018 22:24:32 GMT -5
Hi Jerry, Thanks, it is a lot of fun to watch things grow in there. To get to the middle I do a lot of unhealthy stretching. Perhaps a way to step out there on an aluminum ladder or something would be helpful. But for now I manage. As far as winter temps. As far as I can tell the bog essentially freezes completely. At least the bulk of the root zone anyway. I have never had any serious issues with frost heave, though i do loose some plants when we have alternating very cold spells with rapid warm-ups. The water I use is well water with an acid soft condition, and rainwater.
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Post by jerrytheplater on Feb 21, 2018 21:48:36 GMT -5
I wondered how you'd get into the middle. I'm 6'-2" and I think I'd have to stretch. I doubt you could walk in it. Maybe making a path in the bog before filling it to allow access would be a good plan if I get as ambitious as you.
What about deer eating your plants? We have so many of them. I put my potted dormant plants outdoors today to get them some rain and warm weather. I see plenty of rabbits hoping in the back yard. They've never eaten them before. It will be interesting to see what they look like tomorrow.
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Feb 23, 2018 22:39:52 GMT -5
The only thing the deer ever munch are my goldenrods. I have Solidago speciosa, S. pulchra, and S. stricta. Most years they make it, but the first season, the speciosa got munched pretty hard.
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Feb 25, 2018 15:10:21 GMT -5
So my bog was uncovered from the row cover last week. This is what it looks like right now. In a few weeks I will give everything a haircut. If you look close you can see dark spots where I had to fill in holes that a squirrel dug. The little furty monster did a lot odamage for no apparent reason.
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Post by jerrytheplater on Feb 27, 2018 16:37:32 GMT -5
The squirrel may have buried a nut under there last fall.
Do the deer ever walk in your raised bog?
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Mar 4, 2018 22:38:36 GMT -5
The squirrel may have buried a nut under there last fall. Do the deer ever walk in your raised bog? Not yet.
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Post by Jason Ksepka on Mar 8, 2018 13:07:12 GMT -5
So the bog got a little bit of cleaning up.
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Post by greaden on Mar 9, 2018 11:30:37 GMT -5
My bog garden is a group of sunken pots. I pulled back the pile of pine needles and found that Sarracenia purpurea, S. flava, and a cultivar made it through the winter, so far. S. leuc. appears to be ok. S. minor unfortunately vanished entirely. If I replace it, next year it goes inside to the chilly room where I keep dormant flytraps.
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Post by jerrytheplater on May 21, 2018 19:16:02 GMT -5
Jason
I am wondering if I do build an outdoor bog it would be in a western facing location against the front of my house. Full exposure. No trees. I am thinking of digging out the existing flower bed and lining the hole and filling it with peat moss. Question: since our plants like wet feet and dry ankles, how do you keep the liner from filling up to the top? Do you cut openings in the liner? My question applies to a sunken bog especially, but you would have the same problem with your raised bog.
I would be concerned with weeds getting in the bog via openings in the sides under the ground layer.
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